Interview with Sunny Sharma of Personal Mastery Quest || EP 180


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Welcome to the reality revolution. As always, I’m super excited today to have sunny Sharma. Once again, if you check, uh, the link, I’ve had a previous interview with Sonny and uh, we, we kind of got an idea of what we’re sending was coming from and talked about some basic issues, reality, trans surfing. So I’m really excited today to go a little bit deeper and kind of mastermind some of these subjects. If you check out Sonny’s channel, Sonny is talking about the exact same things. I am he, he has his own take on it. He talks about Neville Goddard, dr Joe Dispenza, of course he talks about trans surfing and those are the same things I’m talking about. So I really wanted to talk to Sonny again, I think that we both have gone through some spiritual growth from the last time that we talked and so it’s gonna it’s going to be interesting to share where we’re at now and maybe answer some questions and go from how you been doing, man, I did an amazing thing. How’d I do? I’m doing great. So I was just saying to Brian before we got onto this live call that, you know, it’s been incredible seeing Brian consistency as well. I think one of the things, you know, with our channels, one of the best things truly has been just providing quality content to this niche, right through this, uh, field of reality creation, really bringing a lot of clarity into this field. I’m sure that’s one of your purposes as well. You know, absolutely. Part of this process is it’s a teach learning, uh, me doing this, I’m learning at the same time as I’m teaching it. Do you notice that that process, if I had not done this, I would not have learned as much exactly I had before. There’s like, there’s like I always see there’s two things that I’m going through, right? What some teachings that I have definitely integrated and [inaudible] like experienced in my life. Right? And there’s are certain things that I always talk about, but there’s also certain things that I talk about where I’m conceptually grasping and now, and I’m like opening up to, I talk about it, you know, in a, in a vague sense on a channel sometimes. But through it I see it also becoming experientially integrated as I go on with my life. And then, you know, so it’s just like this constant thing where it’s like he thinks that you’ve experientially integrated into your life and certain things that are still conceptual that are in the process of being. Yeah. So you, you actually, um, wanted to go off in some different subject. You’ve actually been in gone and said, seems sod guru, um, speak. So, and I’m a big fan. I’m starting to delve more into his stuff. So tell me a little bit about that and, and so we can compare it. A lot of people watching might be trans surfers and may not understand, uh, and, and maybe you can help me a little bit. When you went and saw side grew, what, what did you get out of that experience? So initially I actually did his Syria Korea program, which was not really with him. It was one of his teachers that really teach you the [inaudible], the practice of Syria, Korea, which is a yoga program that you do for like 20 minutes every single day. So it’s like that, that practice I learned initially. Right. So that kinda got me involved with Aisha organization. Not really involved, but like, you know, they got me introduced to their organization. They like how they conducted things and it was really, it seemed authentic. Um, you know, they’re really truly bringing that Eastern authentic yoga to the West and that’s why you have to attend those programs to learn it. There’s no way you can learn it online or whatever. And initially, so I went to that and then I realized that he was the inner engineer pro right. Engineering program was coming to Philly right here. So I’m in New York, so, you know, I was like, okay, if this is back close and you know, it’s like maybe, maybe it’s like a one time thing. I just wanted to see him live because back in the day, I really like a year ago, so I was really gotta keep it. So, um, got the opportunity. Definitely want the quality came to, I remember at that time, um, so we went to that program. It was amazing, right? It’s just like the culture that they have created around, um, in our engineering program. Um, so there’s like an online portion of the program where you learned the fundamental fundamental principles of really how to go through life with the least amount of friction with the most amount of ease and joy. Right? So those are just the principles that we even talk about on our channels. But then there’s also this 21 minute, uh, Korea practice. Um, it’s like a [inaudible]. Mmm. It’s a co a couple of different techniques all combined into one. So that’s something that you learn a lot. Yeah. Is it, is it physical exercises or meditation? The career practice? Is it physical exercises? [inaudible] so the first program that I learned was the physical exercise, right? That’s Korea, Korea, which is actually not a Korea yoga. It’s a hot day yoga. The second one, which is called Shambhavi, a mom throw, that’s a Korea yoga. Um, different sorts of like breathing techniques and also like ohm chanting and certain mindfulness practices that you do for like about 21 minutes, right total until you’re supposed to do that every single day. So that was, that was a really cool experience. But really just like seeing him in live, you know, seeing the entire community that’s surrounding him was awesome experience. Overall. I have the six 20 reminder that the Brahma Monda soar, Rupa, you know the one he has, he has every day at six 20 that you get a like a reminder on your phone. It’s like a little chant. Have you tried that one? It’s actually what is fascinating about sod guru and what we’d talk about. So what we’re talking about, it seems like this, all this knowledge came to him. He’s not this dude that was at the, at the university studying books. When they sit and talk to him, he, he’s incredibly knowledgeable. He’ll talk about physics, he’ll talk about all this stuff and it’s authentic. Like you said, he’s got a sense of humor about it. Where do you think that knowledge, do you think that it’s, if you get a feeling that this knowledge came from somewhere else and that’s why I’m really interested in that. You know, and [inaudible] in a lot of teachings they say when you go to the source of life within, right? Right. Okay, bye. Taking your focus away from all of this external stuff that you can study for ages and you still wouldn’t understand it fully, right? There’s so many things on the external level to learn, but once you go to the source of everything within and explore that through that the recognition and the, the understanding of all of this external stuff will start to naturally come to understanding. So I think that’s really the case. You know, with a lot of the BPPP people who are really awakened and something that I’m also realizing in my own experience, the more I like let go of my focus from just constantly studying all these concepts and just practicing silence through that, my understanding of life and reality continues to increase. So in terms of sound good, obviously the way he talks about a lot of intellectual concepts as well. I’m sure some of them are studied, run with them or you know, some things that he’s actually learned obviously. But, um, generally I think just the general understanding of life dawns on you, the more you go in and that’s 100% something you can experientially secret yourself right now. He talks about, I just was reading about halfway through his book about Shiva and I still don’t understand he’s taught Shiva was an actual person or maybe he’s related to a, a former Yogi. Um, it’s super fascinating the way he talks about Shiva. Uh, you know, uh, I don’t know if that’s something that you understand as well or definitely understand that. Again, I tried to, I tried to keep my journey as less filled with concepts and symbolism as possible and just go directly to the, you know, what like, just that direct knowledge, the bread that I, recognition of self source, right. Shiva, I’m pretty sure it’s a symbolism, right? Representing the one consciousness. I could be wrong. I haven’t studied much. Well, yeah, I mean I got that and other things. So it was like a, always wanted to ask somebody that maybe, so aside from that, the reason I brought up sod gurus cause I’m on that path right now and, and I know that you’d been there, so it was interesting to ask you about that. Going to engineering or engineering. Absolutely. I’m going to definitely go. And then um, I think that, um, when I saw quasi here you were, you were visiting California to go to Iisha at that point too. Right? So it wasn’t a show. It was actually the self-realization fellowship that’s established by Yogananda. And so over the summer, towards the end of the summer, I wanted to go to a meditation retreat. Right. It’s something I actually had been wanting to do for awhile and it was so funny. Like the inspiration came to me like after a meditation, I just sometimes, I’m sure this happens to you too, like you just find yourself maybe on a website or you’re just like find yourself some researching or a YouTube video. That’s exactly what you needed to see at that time. And it was like, I was just looking for a meditation retreat, stumbled upon this. Um, and it was a meditation retreat at the self-realization fellowship in LA. They were booked for a couple of months over there. Like at the end of the August when I finally got the chance to go, I wanted to book it for like the next day. Honestly. I love doing that kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly. But I got, I had to do it like wait a of months, I think like two or so. And then I went there. Amazing experience. Yogananda’s teachings obviously, how to export them, you know, out of biography. It’s funny, like I literally keep this book by me all the time. Yeah, it’s amazing. Exactly. So it’s like, um, the center over there. Amazing. Like the Lake shrine is basically like an entire Lake where it’s just filled with flowers. All you smell is just beautiful fragrance of flowers and it’s such a peaceful environment. It’s like honoring all, all religions of the world, right? Like it’s just basically a shrine out, like or surrounding a Lake. And I literally sat there like meditating for four days. So is it silent or is it a silent retreat the whole time? Is it one [inaudible] yeah, exactly. So I was in, um, so I didn’t speak for four days straight. It was the most beautiful experience ever. Difficult in the beginning because honestly, when you go to an environment like that where other people are also silent internally, not just outside, right. Mentally silent, sometimes your mind is like going all over the place and it’s like, Oh, like, you know, so especially when she wants you to like know that you can’t see for four days. So it starts to offer some resistance in the beginning, but eventually it comes down. Yeah, it was an, it was an amazing experience. I think meditation retreat is something everybody should do it at least once, just to see, you know, maybe at least like three to four days. So let’s talk about that. Stillness. Stillness is, is great theoretically, but it’s hard. It’s hard. A lot of people struggle with it and, and, uh, I really think that it can explode whatever practice you’re in, if you can. It’s not even meditation, right? If you just find a way to be still, um, in certain situations it can. And so I wanted to have you found benefits from that. Do you just incorporate your stillness with meditation? You find times through the day where you, you remain still, people don’t understand why that’s important. I’ve, I’ve had times when I’ve, it’s almost like it helps you to realize all of the collective thoughts that are going through your head and, and your, um, natural little instincts to move and the uncomfortable of your body. Uh, is there any w for people that say, I can’t do it? Well, what do you say? I mean, tell me a little bit more about stillness. For anybody that says, I haven’t, I can’t do it. It’s just you just haven’t done it enough. You know, it’s just like you, you’ve only known the opposite of stillness all your life, which is constant activity cause he, here’s the thing, like if there’s no stillness within your, within, right, like your mind is not so then your body won’t be still and your actions won’t be like, it’s just going to be constant reflection of that turbulent mind in your life and even your situations won’t be so like peaceful flowing Harmonia. So in order to really create that hormone harmony outside that abundance and wellbeing and peace outside, it has to begin with it, right? Not only for the manifestation purpose of it, but truly if you ever want to recognize what you truly are beyond this mind more and more, right? That awareness that speak of all the time, Ben stillness is something that’s like necessary because until you’re still, you can’t really recognize what you are until it, if you’re, if you’re always just thinking and you’re always just moving, then you’re constantly, your awareness is constantly identified with your, Oh, it’s living through those thoughts. I like some people they say they can’t even stay still in their body. Like their minds needs to find expression so, so much, right? That they have no control over their mind and it automatically like expresses through their body but they like, they can’t even stay still in our body. So obviously it’s still lenses is more than just stillness of action, body, mind biting. It’s truly within and anybody is struggling with being still. I would, I would kind of recommend, okay, if you’re having a difficult time being still is because your focus is constantly on the object of your perception, meaning your thoughts leaving your thoughts or objects perception, right? Like your thought is you’re, you, you see it, you, you perceive your thoughts, right? There is the knower of thought and there’s a thought itself. So it’s an object of your perception. You need to start to focus more on what is the subject that is aware of this thought, right? So, so instead of, and this is why most people struggle in meditation too, because they’re fighting thoughts with other thoughts. They’re like to be still, don’t have to do any of that. Instead of all of that, divert your attention. [inaudible] inquire within what is it within you that is aware of these thoughts and tried to go to that space within you. Like you could even do it right now. You know like what is it that is truly like what is it within you that you call Brian? What, where? Where’s the sense of meanness? Brian is coming, right? That is aware of this thought. Like we say, Oh, I’m choosing positive thoughts over negative. Okay, well what is the I, what is the me? What is the Brian or is funny that is choosing the negative, the positive or negative thoughts? As soon as we divert our attention to that, automatically you will experience stillness. Now the practice is simply just staying there with that sense of me, that sense of liveliness, the sense of presence, the sense of like individuality that you get within this body, right? Just staying with it. If you stay with it, there’s going to be no, there’s going to be very little thought activity. And when it comes around, you simply inquire again where it’s like, okay, it’d be thought came back like here, what is it that is aware of these thoughts? Rather than [inaudible] taking the thought, putting on the suit of that thought and living and expressing through that thought. Instead of that, just observe it and be like, okay, what is it that is observing it? We take that for granted. We don’t inquire with them. Right? And that’s why we just constantly live through these thoughts. We identify with them. So it’s just constant coming back to what is it that is aware of these thoughts. And that has been my, the most monumental thing in my opinion, really deepening the sense of self. It’s almost premeditation. Uh, still, uh, some level of [inaudible], a prolonged period of stillness, of five to 10 minutes. If you’re going to start meditating, I’d say almost before you do that, find a way just to be still, and don’t even call it meditation now. You could, you could just sit just still. For some people that’s the hardest thing. Just stillness without doing at first. Don’t even worry about the mind. Just sit still. And then after you’ve gotten to the point where you can sit still, then start being still with your mind, like you said, and all that stuff. Uh, the more I, I teach this and the more I see this, I think that stillness, there’s all these advanced meditations that people can do and stuff, but stillness is a prerequisite almost before any of that. Yeah. And all of their meditations are secondary. You know, they’re amazing. All these guided visualization guided, they’re awesome to really guide you into a different vibration. But still in order to recognize the awareness that you are, you need Joe, the only meditation that will help you truly do that in a very direct way is putting your awareness on your awareness. Becoming aware of what is it that is aware. So it’s almost like the flashlight that is lighting up all of these objects, right? And you’re constantly just looking at the objects for getting that. There’s light that is lighting up all the, so it’s like now figuring out where the light is coming from and that that will deepen. So that’s where I was talking about, um, we were talking about before going with it. And then naturally this understanding of life and reality dawning upon you more and more. That’s truly like experientially, that’s what I’m feeling. The more you go in, well you accessed that stillness, the more naturally, not just things work out in your life, but also just like the greater understanding of these concepts, these teaching start to just naturally be integrated into it, which is so beautiful. So I just did an episode I want, I want to break us down with you. Mmm. We’ve talked about all these different subjects and you see it mentioned on the trans surfing group and other groups. Everybody wants their own little pendulum. There’s the law of attraction penalty and the true reality transferring Penyem the Neville Goddard, and I’m finding consistencies with all this stuff. So let, let, let’s, let’s integrate some of this stuff together. People may think, Oh, he’s Neville Goddard, so he’s not trans surfing anymore. Or you see somebody post law of attraction is totally not even close to as good as reality trans surfing. So [inaudible] fundamentally I think that they’re there, this stuff is linked together and they all can provide benefit in pulling it together can be a benefit to us by focusing on one theory or one thing, you end up losing some powerful techniques and ideas. So the reason that you and I have really started to explore Neville Goddard, so his teaching seem in some ways simplistic, but what is the, what is it that pulls you to Neville Goddard that inspired you about his teachings? First of all? Mmm. One of my, one of my viewers that I connected with on Instagram, she actually recommended no daughter to me. So we used to have a dialogue, you know, just sharing things back and forth. And um, she recommended navigator to me and she’s like, there’s no way you don’t know about Neville. She was like, you know, it’s like, um, his teachings are so simple yet like they almost like, um, are the source of transfer thing, if anything. So, you know, that I checked it out and I remember like making a few videos on it, like after I started to practice and like really like the teachings definitely connected with me, the lecture, the way they’re presented, um, the stories that he shares, it’s really powerful to what like, you know, just the way that teaching comes across. Very authentic, very original. Um, so, you know, when I started practicing it and started to make YouTube videos about it and definitely the viewers also really connected with it. So just then like exploring it more and more. Um, but yeah, absolutely. Like I do believe that it’s the same stuff that’s trans surfing. Like, and it’s like really the essence. I’m transferring the same stuff as the essence of a lot of tracks. All of these teachings, they have the same, they’re pointing to the same truth, right? So the problem is only for a person who becomes too attached [inaudible] a certain teaching. Like I know a lot of the Neville viewers, they’re very, very attached to Netherland self. Right. And I, and I do get some criticism from these doers as well. Sometimes I’m like questions about why even explore trends and things like that and my answer is always this, it’s like your journey will take you to whatever teaching that you need to hear at this time, right? Your allow your journey to do that. You don’t need to actively seek for what the new, the newest teaching or whatever your journey will take care of that. Michael give you that. Now your job is to go through these teachings and not attach yourself to a teacher or the teaching, but rather your job is to simply recognize the truth that those teachers and teachings are pointing to and let go the teachers and teaching. Whereas most people like on their journey, you know, it’s like [inaudible] we start to identify as being spiritual or like being trans surfers or whatever and whatever. It’s like that stuff is only going to weigh you down, look at the truth that is being pointed to apply it, recognize it, truly live it and allow journey the journey to take you to the next teacher or whatever you need to hear. And that’s like, well, you know, it’s like there’s no argument between any teachings, right? Like you shouldn’t ever limit yourself to one. Just allow your journey to do it and then just continue to recognize the truth instead of just [inaudible], okay, this is the teacher, this is everything. Well, he was teaching how to do target slides basically. How did you properly do target sites coming from the wish fulfilled, the a PR process of visualization that’s very effective. Uh, Oh, so law of attraction and I, and this is another law of attraction is still in many ways for me it’s kind of like a source code to what’s underlying everything that’s going on. And then reality trans surfing kind works to me like a program that we can use to apply law of attraction. Because law of attraction though sounds simple, it’s can be very complicated in the effects that occur as you start to apply the way your thoughts affect reality. So, uh, it’s not the only way, but it’s a very powerful way if you apply it. Does that sound, I remember that. I think like I totally agree and yeah, transfer thing, at least in my experience so far is the most thorough explanation of how reality works and how you can influence reality. The most thorough explanation. I don’t trust me, like I don’t think there’s anything that comes close to how well it is explained a logical mind, right? So a lot of people that may just like connected with Neville’s teachings right away and that’s great and all, but like if you truly are like coming from a very material and background, like a scientific sort of background, I’m very like logical thinking. Yeah, exactly. It’s for the scientist kind of. Yeah. Uh, you get people that are over-analyzing everything and they can’t, but then they get to transfer thing and it gives them a model to pie some of these subjects. I know what’s up. Sorry about that. Um, so obviously like a lot of these discussions that I see going on, I think half of these discussions would fade away instantly if all of these, um, teachings were also being supplemented with meditation. I think there’s a lack of clarity in this field of reallocation because people are wanting to learn. They want to read the books, they want to watch the video. You don’t want to apply the teachings. That’s beautiful, but they’re not meditating and they’re not recognizing the significance of meditation or just illness or whatever. Um, and through it, they’re not integrating all of these concepts properly. And so it’s just like going from one teacher to the next, which is not going to serve you as much if you just intellectually understand it. It’s all, it’s truly about knowing that this is how life works. I’ve tried to create meditations after I do a teaching around the concept cause that’s how I learned. I need to meditate. I, you know, if we’re going to talk about the wave of fortune, let’s, let’s meditate on that and get the, the concept of it. I agree with you 100%. It’s a, it’s easy to talk about this stuff. There’s people that are experts that can quote reality, trans surfing, that are, have not created the reality even close to what, because they’re in the book and they’re not in the experience. I think you could always see like how well you know the concepts by seeing a certain phase in your life where you’re wanting to do something like [inaudible], you’re fearful about it, where maybe you have to put yourself on the edge, you have to venture off into uncertainty, your willingness to go into it, your willingness to like actually go through that journey and um, maintain the balance that we speak of all the time. Like all those principles. If you’re doing those well, then you’re truly experientially applying all of these teachings. If you see yourself constantly holding back or if you see yourself constantly reacting negatively to things, if you see yourself, you know, like not feeling free then then there’s a sign that, okay, you understand these teachings intellectually, but they still have to be integrated, integrated, right. So a couple of things. I’ve noticed a pattern in coaching and I wanted as a, as one of the best coaches out there, I wanted to run this by you and then we can mastermind this. So again, I get clients that are, it’s, I remember there’s an Abraham teaching where she’s saying there’s the car at the top of the Hill in San Francisco going down that steep drive and there’s nothing that you can do to stop it. Just wait until the car crashes. And that’s just going to be how it is. That’s how reality is. Sometimes you can, you, you should have been manifesting way before then, but by the time the cars going down the Hill, it’s too late. So we get a lot of clients that there, it’s, Hey, I’m about to declare bankruptcy tomorrow, or I am a, I’m $200,000 in debt. Can I ma, can I fix this right now? Uh, and so there’s gotta be something we can do because I feel that I’ve been there, I’ve been in that moment where I’m in the car and it’s going down and there’s no way I can stop it. So, so what is your, what is it, what is a way that we can help those people? The people, you know, if you jump off the building, you can try to manifest, um, some kind of cushion on the way on down, but it just doesn’t work like that. So, you know what I mean? So it’s frustrating when you get that person that they’ve, they’ve manifested to the point where they just got to go through it and it’s going to work to their advantage. But, um, it’s something that’s frustrating with me and then maybe I’m not coaching it right or I’m not dealing with it correctly. Do you understand what I’m trying to talk about? You saying like when a person has both up a significant amount of negative moment, yeah. Major excess, potential, major negative, negative momentum. Um, how do we coach somebody out of that? Because there’s gotta be a way and we can’t at hope for miracles. Right? Um, so I would say don’t hope for miracles, but definitely expect them or, uh, be open to them. However, on a very practical sense, right? Like, cause a lot of people, um, including myself in yourself, like we’ve all experienced, learned situations where we’re so like deep into it and there’s truly like, man, I’m actually going to get out of here like I don’t see anyway. Or like, you know, or if it was a way that it’s going to take forever. Mmm. That’s when you gotta stop projecting this time and the journey and truly come to first come to acceptance of this present moment. And I know it’s so cliche, but like you really cannot embark on a positive journey while resisting what is in the now. Mmm. You have to understand that the contents of the present moment don’t define life right? Life is not defined by the contents of the present moment, but life is defined as the present moment. It is the present moment. There is no life in whatever you’re projecting right now. Right? It is all just projection. Past future, right now is just projection. Life is only here and what is here is your reflection. It is you right now, whatever. Then your awareness is so look at it like that. And now you have a, did you have a decision to make? It’s like, are you going to resist yourself? Are you going to fight against what is already here, the contents of this written moment or are you going to at least just come to acceptance for it and just just for the now I always say that to anybody that I’m working with. I’m just like, just for this moment, can you just not try to change anything just for this moment. Don’t project you in five minutes from now. Just for this moment, can you just, just for this moment, can you stop judging this moment as a negative or positive? Okay. Just for this moment, can you just [inaudible] ease that part of you that wants to just flee or change something, right? When you actually like recognize the present moment w away from all your judgments and labels. There’s something in you either is up a little bit and that is that very ease, that very sense of relief, very surrender that is your ticket out of this, but you don’t recognize that in your mental resistance when you’re constantly labeling and judging and trying to fight against it. So yes, no matter how much negative momentum you have built or how much you like, how fresh it is, whatever, like if it’s not even that much right, it has to start with just the recognition of life here in the know and acceptance of whatever is here in the know and then truly taking it moment by moment while feeling at ease. The more you feel at ease, in other words, the more you’re surrendering to life. People don’t like that terminology because it’s like, well, I don’t want to surrender, but it’s like truly when you’re, when you’re relaxed, you’re surrendered. Anytime you are not relaxed, when you feel it like, Oh my God, like I want to change. That’s when you’re truly like as a, as a separate personal self trying to fight against life. The more you relax, the more you’re surrendered and you’re more you moment by moment. Life will reflect that more and more. Your internal state will always be reflected in the outside, so no matter how hectic and unfathomable your situation is in terms of like, how am I going to get out of this? Ways will present themselves means a little present themselves. If you inside feel relaxed and have the willingness, two, focus on what you do want to create and just moment by moment. If you take that journey, no matter how long it takes, right? Like you’re going to have to live from here on out anyway, so you might as well do this. Something that actually works rather than constantly seeing more friction. Yeah. That’s my, that’s my advice. You know, taking a moment by moment but always like checking in with yourself. Are you feeling okay? Ease. Yeah. Are you truly feeling that peace, that nonjudgmental piece and through that take action through that and do whatever. How do you coach somebody or recommend what is the best way to ignore the present, to ignore the, the world that you’re in now? Because some people are, some people you talk to, they may be in a country where it’s, it’s really bad or they’re in a family situation that’s really bad. We see hundreds of videos on YouTube. Talk about it. I think it’s important. Uh, and I’ve definitely had to deal with certain clients and um, it’s all words in many ways. But is there, is there a techniques or tricks that you can use to ignore the outside world a little bit but stay in the present moment at the same time? I think in this, if you use techniques or tools, you’re always gonna like end up maybe taking it for a little light on railing. Cause I don’t think it’s about ignoring what’s here but rather recognizing that it does not define you. Recognizing that what you are is greater than this reality, this situation. So this goes back into that meditation and self-inquiry, right? You can only have that greater perspective. And if you learn to detach from your personal self, from your judgments, like from this identity that you’ve created, if you, if you’re actually doing the meditation and the self-inquiry and you know, doing that on raising your awareness. My, what I always say to describe my program, the coaching program is like create the life you truly want to live through a higher consciousness mindset. And this is what I need. So there’s a difference between creating from this person perspective, fighting thoughts with thoughts and just constantly, you know, just trying to like change your reality from this person, believing that this person funny is creating life, right? Higher consciousness perspective to me is recognizing that what I, what I refer to when I say I is actually greater than this person. We maybe fail to recognize that because we don’t inquire within our true nature. But when I, when you try to really dig, when you start to detach from this person. So if your sense of self started to detach from Brian and started to identify more with that awareness within which this entire experiences that unbiased like that awareness and nothing in this [inaudible] current situation is touching, nothing is obstructing that awareness, that awareness has no opinion. It has no judgment that has no labels. Once you start to identify and arrest more and more over there and live through that perspective, then it actually becomes more possible for you to change the contents within this awareness. But if you are identified as this personal self then you’re going to be, so it’s almost like the example that I give like [inaudible] identifying with the movie character. If you’re fully like have you lost sense of yourself as the watcher of the movie and you’re identified with the movie character and when it will be character goes through a struggle, you’re not, you’re going to be completely distraught. You’re going to have no, you know, like ability to be positive when the movie character goes through a good time. Then. So it’s like you’re completely with the movie characters world, you’re completely controlled by the plot of the movie, having no recognition of what you actually are, that detached observer. So this process of creating your own reality to me is truly about recognizing that you are not this movie character at, uh, an actual experiential level, not just as a belief or a thought. Really recognizing that and through it, you know, directing, you’re a different movie if you choose to and you can only actually ignore your current movie if you realize at a deeper level that you are not this movie character that you are something greater. Only then can you feel at ease even when maybe you’re in the middle of a war zone or something like that. You know? So it’s all about having this greater understanding rather than looking for like tools and techniques to but like a bandaid on a much bigger problem. That is a perfect explanation. I think that should help a lot of people. So have you had some questions on, on your group? I asked them if they had any questions. So first of all, uh, Rosita wanted to ask, which, what is the most difficult challenging concept for M reality trans surfing for you? Oh, for me to understand or to Oh, D what concept? In reality trans surfing is the most difficult. I mean [inaudible] if I try to answer that, it’s not really difficult in terms of understanding, it’s just difficult in terms of application sometimes or remembering, uh, I don’t think that reality trends surfing is difficult. And I think that that maybe comes from the idea. But is there anything that you’ve been challenged by in, in applying the principles of [inaudible]? I think for anybody in terms of value transfer, I think the hardest thing to ever grasp will always be out or intention. That’s just, you know, cause it’s outer intention is something that cannot even be defined. So it’s like the mind will always try to itch away at it, but it’s like, it’s always going to fall short. Um, the most you can do is truly just like align your energies in a way that allows the most amount of outer intention, you know, to be in harmony with that. Um, however, in terms of like, so that’s something that I definitely like, you know, I kind of struggled with in the beginning, but then eventually I just slowed at ease with it and started to recognize it more and more through meditation. But it is outer intention. God, I would say it’s like the, the will of the higher self or awareness or God, right? So when I talk about like detaching from this personal self and recognizing yourself as that awareness, that was outer intention, you know, that’s where our attention, it’s alignment with the universal I’m law. Whereas your inner intention is like you believing that you’re this little person and you’re trying to create things through, through this little person, you know, with your personal will. So the personal world versus like the will of God, you can say the will of awareness. Mmm. So that’s my understanding as of now. But in terms of like other concepts that, um, I think [inaudible] was difficult for me that I had to read a couple of times. Um, and it’s difficult to integrate as alternative slow, right? Going with the flow is a very misunderstood topic. And it’s a very, it’s a topic that you, you’ll never truly understand if once you start to actually until you start to apply it and really gain that balance yourself. Because I’ve gone through things where I’ve like really fought against the flow and create a lot of friction and then the complete opposite where I’ve like completely just surrender to the flow and then not really. Mmm, exactly. Sometimes you go with the flow, it feels like you’re going with the flow, but it kind of just man meander off into a different part of the, the river that took you on some outlet. You have to allow that to happen for both. Like you have to find your own balance through experience. No matter how many videos about you watch about it, you’re not going to be able to go with the flow until you practice it. Um, but yeah, the alternative slow, Mmm. Truly integrating that into your experience is probably the most difficult thing I think. But like if you do, so everything else will truly take care of itself. Like if you have the vision, if you have the willingness, if you go with the flow, everything takes care of itself 100%. So my best understanding of of alternatives flow is it’s the easier way for you to realize your intention. There’s always an easier path, right? You can usually get to your attention if you fight sometimes, but the alternative slow is the easy way that will carry you along. Am I right? I would say the most, the most, um, harmonious way, the most harmonious, easy in terms of like work, right, may not have to work. You may not have to put effort in and all that stuff, but it’s going to be okay. The easiest and the most joyful way. So that’s like, it’s coming back right to what we talked about before, feeling at ease, fueling truly surrendered. You will allow yourself to go moment by moment and then the low will take care of you. Like the flow will reflect back to you, your state. So the only two things that you always need to be concerned about or really monitored while going with the flow is number one, your focus, right? What you’re focused on and how you’re focused on it. In what way? In a positive way or negative way. And then second is your state of being in this moment how you feel. If you feel like you know your struggle, like you don’t, there’s like a struggle, you’re resisting and the flow will reflect that back to you. So from here on out, right, nothing is determined where your life unfolds. So it’s like moment by moment, all that is determined. What is coming next is determined by what you’re focused on right now and how you feel. So a large part of going with the flow is truly always feeling surrendered at ease and then focusing on what you do want. If you do so your doors will continue to open like truly. And you know, like you will just continue to take action. So it’s, it’s, it’s a balance between surrendering to the flow and always maintaining that willingness to always also keep moving forward and taking action. So since we talked, I think that when we first had our first interview, it was right when [inaudible] had come out. I think so we were just saying, Oh there’s this plot thing. We were talking about it like kind of like little kids learning how to walk, right? So when we can now can experiment, compare our experiences. I almost want to do, since I’ve been doing these interviews, I’ve almost asked everybody about the Platte. So I want to compile all these together and I’m going to compile what you said here now because I think that there is a phenomenon, like there’s first of all the question is there the Platte or is this something, if we understand reality creation, did we, did Zealand create this and now it’s become a tool for us to use or was it there all along and we didn’t know until 2018 right? 2019 that there’s this plat. So how often have you used the plot? Have you noticed, have you learned anything along the way now that we have developed in the use of this? Can we, can we expand and make a more advanced understanding of the plot? I just wanted to get your vibe on that. That was something I was curious about too. I remember the last time we spoke, was it like is this an actual thing or is it just that the Dean is actually tricking his viewers into believing not for like, just to mess with them but like actually for a good reason. As you, if you’ve read Tran surfing, you re read him the intention chapter that even things like rituals and like objects of rituals only get the meaning that you give them and they’re only so effective because of the meaning that you give to them. You know, even people like in terms of um, like creating certain things or like creating certain affects or miracles or whatever, they use certain objects because they [inaudible] there’s so much collective meaning in that, okay, this will make that thing possible. This will make it effective. So of like, honestly, I still haven’t found my answer, but I don’t think it’s important. Um, it could certainly be a thing, right? Like I know like there’s a, I know you had a discussion and both of your group and my group, I think about like the origin of it or like in terms of Carlos Castenada he mentioned something along the lines of it. Yeah. Or it could totally be a fabrication, but because everybody is giving so much significance to the plate and thinking that, okay, because I’m doing this exercise, my visualization is going to become real. It’s going to have that effect. Exactly. So it doesn’t matter what exactly as a reader, I never did. I always say like, I did make some videos about it and even within which I did mention, like, you know, um, experiment with this, the, you know, how I just described the technique itself. It’s something that I used to practice when I was reading Tuffy in the beginning a lot. Um, I’ve since then ventured off because now I’ve, I’ve, I’ve realized that, Mmm, I prefer Matt with like visualization, just, you know, I’m just doing it without the plate and doing it with the sense. So some, there’s something I had discussed on my channel which is like to make your visualization really effective, visualize it like truly ha like bring the noun nest like the nowness the present moment feel to that visualization is very, it sounds very best basic, but it’s very like, because if you think about it, the only thing that is going to be similar between your current reality and your desired reality is this feeling that it is happening right now. Nothing else we’ve seen, you know, so it’s like bring the only thing that is similar between the two things [inaudible] bring that into your, that visualization. So that’s something that I’ve been really experimented with or the play it up kind of like I’m LA. That’s kind of what Neville is talking about when he’s talking. And so let me throw this theory out. I want to bounce off you and see if, obviously we’re not going to answer the the questions of the university, but if there’s, are these parallel universes, thousands of different parallel universes going along. And if we sit and we imagine in the moment, right now this is happening, it’s like we’re pulling the, we’re on the boat and we’re moving the boat along to that parallel reality. It’s like, Oh boy, we’re shining a beacon of light towards that one. That actually exists because it does exist right now. Our brain is not just imagining it. It’s accessing that place that exists right now. And so by doing that, by doing these, we’re moving ourselves towards a timeline where it exists and as we continue to get, we get closer and closer to that energy and we, that’s what it feels like sometimes to me. Like when I understand parallel universes and what reality trans surfing, we’re not just like artists creating some reality out of our mind because we’re so creative. We’re actually accessing with our imagination something that’s real, that isn’t a real reality that’s existing in this moment right now. And by closing our eyes, we have access to all these realities. So by accessing it, we’re actually, we’re moving the boat towards that little reality and maybe momentary in the boat, we’ll go back. But if we keep going and we keep rowing, we get closer and closer to where, where that actually exists. We’re just shining a light. What does that, does that sound reasonable to you or am I crazy to understand? Uh, parallel realities? Um, the recently, the way I’ve been trying to explain it is like first becoming more clear about who is the we that is actually go shifting to a parallel reality, right? If we think that it’s like, okay, this body is going to a different parallel reality that wouldn’t be as accurate. Whereas like when we quote, when you close your eyes and go within, what are you asking? What are you actually accessing as you’re actually becoming more able to detach again from the person and being, being more that awareness, that awareness within which let’s just say your entire experience of being projected right now, your entire current reality is being productive in this sphere of awareness. That’s what I’m actually seeing the link to the sphere within which your current reality exists, including your person. I, I’ll just say like little Brian is right here. This is his world. So, so it’s you now recognizing that you are this awareness and then now imagining, right? Like imagining whatever else. So this is like your current world, your current movie and now within the sphere contains the potential [inaudible] whatever movie that you can see, right? Like and all parallel realities you can say. So it’s basically by imagining you’re using your ability to connect with that version, right? And now trying to project that in your sphere of awareness. Right? And so it’s like that will, that reality will include a different Brian, right? Different body, mind, body, a different world. But who shifted the pedal reality, right? It’s not the, it’s not the or did it? There was no shifting. It was just a different projection within the same potential, which is now, which is the present moment, which is you, the awareness. It’s the awareness. The most fundamental part of this is it’s my awareness, what I see and feel right now. All those other Brian’s are just zombies without awareness. So they, they, but my point is that those realities actually may exist when we move into that timeline. It’s already built up and perfectly made for us, but we’re just moving our awareness to that reality. Right. Is that what you’re kind of saying? It’s, it’s we’re moving and shifting our awareness now if it’s the future, it’s just, it could be just an information grid, but it, it, it, it helps to think of it as actually existing exists in the alternative space. Yeah, that’s definitely a beneficial way of looking at it because that will help you truly like, you know, continue to look at it in a positive way, you know, in an empowering way. Yeah. Right. Um, all right. So, so that helps a lot. So has there been any new material or stuff that you’ve accessed since we last spoke that, that has really inspired you, that you’d like to talk about? Uh, yeah. And I actually always also keep this one around me and I’ve promoted this on my channel a lot. Who am I by? Shriram an MRC. He’s awesome. Oh, 16 patients page book will help you deepen your understanding like nothing else. So anybody that’s watching this, please go buy this on Amazon. It’s only $3, and it will, you can literally read it in about half an hour, not even a, but like, obviously it’s something that you should continuously read because it’s the deepest stuff you’ll actually find. So three teachers, the most direct method to self-realization. Um, if you just, uh, the only, the most direct method to recognizing the awareness that already is you, but it’s currently falsely identified with the mind and body. And so when we talk about enlightenment and self realization, we think that’d be, there’s some crazy events that have to happen in that they’re so far beyond art reach our lifetime. Okay. But they’re not right. Enlightenment is simply the recognition of what you actually are rather than, you know, being identified with what you are not. And so it’s possible for everybody right here and now. Um, and so [inaudible] marshy, um, this is basically his entire teaching, very simplified in, into this, you know, 16, 17 pages. Um, but there’s also books like be as you are that will help you, you know, get a more conceptual framework around his teaching. But it’s really that process of self-inquiry. Constantly letting go of the focus of object, focus on objects and replacing that with [inaudible] inquiring what is it that is doing the focusing. So in this way you’re looking not for, you’re not looking for awareness objectively cause it’s almost like there’s this quote by st Francis, I think you said that in meditation or in self-inquiry, what you’re looking for is actually where you’re looking from and because that’s the case, you think it’s hard to find, but it’s already where you’re looking from. So this God or this enlightenment or this awareness that you’re, you’re, you’re trying to raise or become, it’s actually where you’re already looking from. But because you constantly are looking for it like an object, like Oh I can describe it, I can be like that was over there. That’s why you felt defined it. She Romena said that like it’s almost like the eyes that can look at everything but they cannot see themselves. Right. Or the the those cause they’re one or the, the way the weight scale, the scale that can waste so many things but it cannot weigh itself, right? Right. Same thing with a flashlight. It can light up everything but it cannot light itself up. So self inquiry is a process of diverting your focus away from objects. Also thoughts, authors, objects of experience. Okay, okay. Two directing that to what is it that is doing the focusing, what is it that is aware of this? And the more he said that you, you do this, the more you isolate your awareness like this just by itself, away from all objects, the more you will start to recognize the false self, right? The false identification, this ego identification. And the more you will start recognizing what you truly are and you’re going to stay there more and more through that, you’ll be able to actually create what you do want through that higher consciousness perspective that I was talking about before. Right? So I love that. That, um, so some other questions before we, we miss them here. Let’s see here. Is humor mind or awareness? Sonny, first of all, when I was talking to Frederick Dotson and I asked him how we judge gurus and one of the things he said is do they have a sense of humor? So I found that interesting. So and, and you have a sense of humor, but how do we, um, humor, is it an energy that comes in? Is it mind or awareness? That’s what I’m Sharon asks. So it’s, it’s mind all thought his mind. But um, your ability to have humor within a life full of restrict, like, you know, like all these supposedly limitations and restrictions implies awareness, wisdom, freedom. So it is awareness in a way. So it’s a mix of awareness and, right. So another question and, and I talked about it a little bit with quasi, but I didn’t and trusted your, um, it’s karma. Um, D is karma effecting what we’re able to do in this life is, it is only in this life are people will say, Oh, I must’ve done something so terrible in my past life and I’m just being punished now. Do you think that’s going on? What is your conception of karma? I think karma is very misunderstood in that way. I haven’t studied karma too much, so I honestly don’t know exactly what it is. Um, I have, because again, I like to keep my journey very concept less like as agree as I can keep it. I like to do that. Um, but in terms of karma, I believe that it is just you’re doing, it’s your action. Um, it’s the reaction that you’re setting off right now in this present moment, which the reactions of you will also feel in this present moment. Um, and the goal is to not worry about what may have happened in the past or what, what is the cause of weight or suffering right now, but rather you and ms moment align your action [inaudible] awareness rather than person. Oneness rather than separation. The more you make the drive and the fuel of how you are being right now and what you’re doing right now, the more you make your field of that for that, um, the sense of love and oneness rather than the sense of selfishness, separation and you know, um, like accumulation, all that stuff. The more you do that, the more you will purify your karma and the more you will cause the karma is one way. Karma yoga is one way to also recognize itself and the path of karma yoga is to, Oh, you know, the one of selfless action, the one of action derived from love, oneness rather than this constant. Mmm. Then so I am the separate mind and body in the big world that I have to, you know, accumulate and avoid an accumulate. I think my take on karma is very simple. Don’t worry about all that stuff, but in this moment, how are you being, what are you doing? What is the motive behind it? Right? What is the fuel behind it? Is it pure? Is it, is it loving? Is it generous? Is it harmonious? If it is, then continue. It’s interest. In a sad gurus book, mystics, musings, he actually says that once you have no karma, that you’re, that that you leave that like there’s some Yogi in the end of the book that purposely is creating karma so he can stay alive. Like, he’ll tell his wife to go get some food for him. Something really subtle and they’re like, why is he doing this? Because he realizes that he, if, if once he’s neutral with karma that he’s gone. And I was like, Whoa, what a crazy concept. I don’t know if that’s [inaudible] yeah. Something like, yeah, that that makes definitely, that makes a lot of sense is that karma is what continues to [inaudible] makes physical existence relevant for you. Right. It is the only thing that allows you to be, uh, to also be interacting on this physical level. So I remember I read something along those lines since upgrade as well, but definitely now that, like you said, a kind of right. I still don’t comprehend that, but I kind of do in concept. But like you said, maybe that’s a concept that I, you know, that I don’t need to explore at this point. Let’s see what else we got. Um, the next thing, since we’re talking about Neville and we’re talking about trans surfing. Oh, a lot of the Neville Goddard pendulum will go on, Hey, I want to find that specific person. What I, I’ve read, I’ve read more than 20% of his lectures live on my show, and he is not referred to a specific person yet. It may be in the truth. And I still got lots of lectures to go. No, but it seems to be an obsession in the Neville Goddard community. I’m not, I’m not defining all of it. Uh, but then there, and, and trans surfing is this wonderfully, very powerful concept of Frayling. And I’ve had people say, well, that contradicts Frayling contradicts. So let’s talk about this. To me, Frayling is a technique. Uh, once you kind of forget about yourself a little bit and start focusing on other people and what their intentions are, you’ll find that they’re going to be a lot more interested and [inaudible] it, you’ll end up creating and maintaining better relationships. And if you want to find your specific person, frail them, right, that, that, that will be more effective than you sitting and trying to manipulate them through your manifestations. Uh, what is your opinion on, on the, the dichotomy between those two and in your take [inaudible], uh, requires you to do, it, requires you to detach from the person you believe yourself to be and actually care about your existence, right? The person that is in your awareness, a different person that is in your awareness or um, whatever else exists in your awareness. So see right there then and there, the deem is using a technique to help you detach your awareness from this mind and body identity that you believe yourself to be, to go into that greater perspective of that awareness within which your entire experience, including that other person exists. So it’s like once you start to ease yourself off of that from that perspective and start to care more about what’s something else within your awareness cares about and tries to, you know, provide that for them naturally also brings flow into your personal experience as well. So thrilling is 100% valid technique and it only takes a couple of tries and practices actually experientially field as I’m sure you know. Um, but absolutely I think in terms of, um, the never got our teachings, it doesn’t contradict anything. Again, trailing aligns you with the truth of, of natural law. Right. So Neville is pointed to the same thing. Um, I don’t know exactly, I haven’t listened to a lot of specific lectures on it. I use that. I’m sure I’ll get to them all. I’ll let you know when I find one. So I know it’s so big in this community and I think like a lot of people, um, I kinda like misunderstanding the teachings and applying it to this specific person. It’s like too big of a concept and I mean, I think on YouTube event, I always say like always ask the people who are like want to manifest something specific. It’s like, okay, are you communicating your intentions to the person clearly, right. Like your intention to want to be in a relationship. Do they even know? Right. They haven’t even talked, I’ve talked to people that they haven’t even talked to them wherever I met them. Exactly. And they’re hoping that they just magically show up. Exactly. So there’s, and then I’ll ask like, okay, then why is that? And then there’s usually always some like sort of again, mental reason, right? Like some sort of mind made resistance or reason. Um, some sense of like not wanting to be perceived incorrectly or putting yourself on the line. So it all comes back to just all that work that you need to do on yourself to internally feel secure, to get to a point all of a sudden to anybody who really wants to manifest a relationship where it’s like get to a point internally where you feel so good, secure by yourself that you don’t feel a need four a relationship only in that energy where you truly are loving being by yourself, enjoying using that time to really like grow your own virtues, grow in strength, work on your passion. Only in that loving energy can relate a relationship actually come into your life that you can actually make beneficial. Like that can actually really work out for it in a really positive way. Cause even in the, if you do manifest, that’s the person and the energy of life, we, I need this person, I am nothing without him. That relationship will become the very source of your future misery. You haven’t learned to truly love yourself yet to be with yourself and truly, you know, radiate that sense of security yet and you’re deriving that from another person, from that relationship. It’s always going to work against you. Um, but I say yes, go for that person. But like then communicate clearly and then also work on yourself in the meantime and be open to any outcome and don’t ever derive like don’t ever place your sense of happiness and wellbeing in another person. So strongly don’t be ever attached to one person so strongly, right? Yeah. At 99% of it is not manifestation. It’s you going up and just introducing yourself and saying, hi, I’m interested. Can we go into adults? That’s the thing that is all of it’s happening through you. You know, so it’s like, reach out to them, be clear in your communication, you know, like see what they would also like and let things like that. And don’t, don’t beat your head projecting all of this stuff, but not actually, you know, I’m doing what, what’s necessary. All right. Some other crazy topics. We’ll just keep going. Maybe unrelated. Let’s see. Something that quasi starting to talk about that I have not talked about on my channel, but it’s interesting is, uh, semen retention, the whole idea of sexual energy. I noticed that he’s been popping some videos on that. So, uh, I ha, I, I don’t, I don’t, I know that, that the Napoleon Hill talked about, uh, like it’s sexual transmutation of energy. It is an energy of creativity. Uh, what’s your take on that? Absolutely. And I came across this and think and grow rich too when I, uh, when I read it for the first time, it was a very, um, explored topic at that time. But ever since then, you know, there’s been countless videos on it and everything like that. And I do believe so. Yes. Um, you know, the more you retain, um, your energy and it’s also in a lot of yoga practices as well. Redirect that energy towards your passion towards what you’re creating towards a greater heightened sense, sense of focus of awareness. Um, so it’s really just redirecting that energy for more creative purposes rather than, you know, just like being for wasteful purposes. But absolutely. Yeah. Like, uh, he’s been going a lot deeper into that and now that’s awesome. You know, I think more awareness on the subject is what is necessary and more clarity. Again, you know, I think also the bigger the topic gets, the more lack of clarity it also gets, I think, cause a lot of people get started giving their opinions on, you know, kind of misconstrue. But it’s good. I think anytime I see a person who actually has some sort of clarity and I explore certain topic, Oh my God, Hey good man, they going to bring clarity into the space. So another thing that, um, that, uh, I still am fascinated by is the, the, the mere concept, um, [inaudible] Neville Goddard, they talk about the whole world is you pushed out, which is another way of saying that you’re seeing a reflection of yourself in the world around you. May some people take that teaching and say it’s everybody is you pushed out. Well that may be true. You’re bringing people into your life that are reflected by you. But the more that I apply the mere techniques, the more mazing it is a very surreal and so some, a fellow traveler. I, I wanted to see how maybe you had gamed the mirror or anything that you, you had come up with in applying the, the mirror principle. The matter of principle is beautiful because it always allows you to seek the lesson from your current experience rather than judging the current experience, you know? So, um, first off, like before we even get into like how to manipulate the meter to actually get what you want, right? It’s like, okay, we’re learned to recognize what the mirror is teaching you right now. So again, it’s not everybody in this is this person pushed out. This person itself has also, you pushed out what is the real you? It’s that awareness, right? So it’s like your awareness identified with right now the belief, the self image, all that, all those thoughts, whatever is identified right now is what is being projected within the sphere. But that is whatever is being projected within your awareness, right? That person over there, whose awareness are they in right now? I’m not saying that’s the only thing that exists. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I’m saying who the awareness are they in right now? Yours, that thing over those mountains over there. Whose awareness are they in? Right? Yours. In that way, everything is you pushed out where it’s like that within your sphere of consciousness, you’re, so everything here is reflecting to you the nature of the stuff that you’ve identified with. So those experiences happening to you, the people coming into your life will always reflect back to you certain qualities about yourself and they could teach you a lot about yourself. So I always look at it. I like all the relationships in my life, all of the things happening in terms of business or a YouTube channel, anything like that. Um, I always try to seek that experience where it’s like, okay, if I’m getting this response from this situation, this response from this person, what could that be? Maybe hinting to me about myself that I need to transcend. And certain times, you know, like there’ll be certain things that you, maybe just, just a trigger that you have to transcend. Like something that you’re sensitive about yourself. That’s, some people keep pointing out, let’s just say like you’re insecure about, Mmm. Like a very general sense. Someone thinks they care about their weight or something like that, right? And like someone in their external life poke fun at them and they’re going to like misunderstand this mirror principle where it’s like, this person is being mean to me, but I’m not mean to people. But that’s not really what it’s all about. It’s almost like, okay, if this person’s poking you about like your weight or something, he within you, right? Go, go, go, inquire within is this like what could this be teaching myself is this person is actually poking fun at this or this person is treating me in this way. Am I treating myself in this way? Or like what do I think about this? And just turn like that. So you have to have that perspective in terms of gaining that lesson, but it always teaches you what you need to learn. Now in terms of creating what you want, the mirror will always reflect the energy, right? The thoughts, emotions and beliefs that you’re identified with you as an awareness. And so if you truly start to believe and you chart start to act the role who you want to grow into, who you want to become, if you tried to start to stay consistent with that on a day to day basis as you’ve seen, like throughout my journey, throughout your journey, more you stay consistent. The more you start to embody the role of let’s just stay in our, in our case the YouTuber or the the co the coach or you know the person for providing these contents, the more life will give you what you need and reflect back to you that yes you are this role, you are this person, you are living this life and and the external circumstances will change. The people that you need to support you will come through for you. The resources, the money, the everything starts to happen. So all of that is simply external including this person that you become is also external. It is just a reflection. Um, whereas [inaudible] the thoughts and emotions and beliefs, they are identified with the self image that you have of yourself. It, the internal and you are the awareness which is flowing in like really identifying with all of that stuff. Well it just makes every single belief very important cause whatever I believe is going to be reflected by started going into my horoscope, then I’m going to see that reflected. What do you think that we could scientifically, as trans surfers figure the exact delay between the movement to the reflection? Is it always different? Is outer intention purposely making it a little bit random or is it, is it six months? Is it the amount of energy that what we put in? Is there some way for us to define when the reflection comes back? Yeah, that’s a really cool question. Actually. I don’t think so. It will always be different for every single person and it’s always going to be dependent on your inner conviction that it is. So if there was some way we could make it in a science in a lab, all right, you’re going to have this belief right now. All right. Start the time now. All right. I don’t, I don’t know if that, you know, but it also matters on how relevant that is for you, right? Like so oftentimes you may be going for a desire that’s not really your true desire, but you can only realize that it’s not your true desire. While on the path towards that desire, like something with me like, you know, when I was going through that, Oh I want to be working in New York city, like wearing a suit in this finance job only by going for that will full force it. I realize that that is not my path. So, um, so all these beliefs and everything like that I think and ultimately [inaudible] very personal. It’s really all on your journey. What’s relevant for you. Maybe right now you do need a set of challenges to actually teach you and get you ready for the role that you’re trying to play. Um, and so it really just follow your journey, have fun with it, don’t worry about the delay. I always thought, I think I just got a YouTube PM today, someone, um, like someone my age really telling me your, your story really inspired me, blah blah. Like how long did it take you to do this? I gave some direction, but at the end I was like, don’t even worry about the time. Trust me. Like it’s of no use. You have to live your life here from now. Anyway. So just day by day, just be consistent with the vibration that you are trying to create, the person that you want to become. Be that right now and stay consistent with it. Go all in day by day by day. It’s a commitment you make to yourself every single day. And truly that turned into that conviction. First it starts off with just faith or like a big belief and then it turns into conviction knowing this, that yes, this is so, and then truly external reflects that back to you. So before we end, I wanted to, and we’re, we’re at 1111 or almost so just for all the Lebanon. Um, I just wanted to, uh, as I always do last, I, last time I talk to you collect your routine, your, your habits and rituals are always evolving. So you meditate once a day. Do you do it in the morning still or do you do an afternoon? Multiple times? Um, so the way last time we spoke, I said I did it once. I think that you meditated once a day last time. Um, but um, what is, how has it evolved? Cause I, you know, it’s never, when I talk to people it may stay the same for 30, 60, 90 days, but we’re improving and evolving our rituals. And so yeah, my [inaudible] is definitely very different than the last time we spoke. I believe. So now that, you know, the YouTube has really picked up, I’m picked up and like business has really picked up my, my activity has gone really high where it’s like I’m really working like all day. No know in a good way. Not like, like you and Jack. Right. Enjoying it and doing what I, you know, I don’t, I don’t really think I’d be doing anything else. Even sometimes on the weekends when I’m outside I’m like, I wouldn’t mind doing right. Activity has gone really high. I need to make sure that I’m always like also based more and more in that presence. Right. Mmm. Anchored in that presence. Started to wake up at five o’clock and I really use the time from five o’clock to about nine o’clock to just do awareness stuff like meditation. I watch a lot of stuff like videos from Luigi and Rupert Spira. Um, really, cause that’s really what I’m passionate about, the business and stuff. Like all that stuff is great, but I realized that that’s not where my joy and happiness truly lie. That’s my expression right now. However, like what I truly lights me on fire is this inquiry of the self. So, um, I meditate in the morning for about an hour. I’ve watched those videos and everything. I do my yoga, I go on a walk, rarely just like, um, focusing on the breath, nothing else, just focusing on taking really deep breaths. Mmm. And then I was gonna meditate then. So like then I get into work around nine or so, and then I meditate again in the afternoon a little bit for about 15 to 15 minutes. Sometimes I don’t, but then definitely in the evening and then at night. So yeah, I would say three times a day, sometimes two. But then I, I make sure to at least once go very deep. Two completely distinct, disengage from all thoughts, all perceptions, all sense of, of even me being funny, right? For getting about everything and just being that blank awareness where I belong. So I break it up. Yeah. Do you do, do you, are you somebody that uses affirmations a lot? Um, so these were my affirmations before all these quotes are early on in my journey. Up until maybe like a couple of months ago, I was really filling all this stuff up. Like all these quotes that really resonated with me from books and there’s also different wall there with certain affirmations that I had written on there. Um, I think once you have a lot of this stuff integrated into your experience, there’s no need for affirmation from that on just trust your journey, trust your awareness, work on awareness. Everything else takes care of itself. So I don’t really work on affirmations at all anymore, but I do every now and then like read through some of these quotes because I believe that if they’re in my experience, right, they’re very relevant. But sometimes I’ll just like look at a quote and I’m like, damn, that’s exactly what I need to read at this time. You know, maybe I need to do that to one of my walls. Man, it was very tempting. So, um, you have a really cool course that I want to recommend accelerated reality. How can they, how can people get access to this course? W what is the, what’s the website? Yeah, telling me the reality program is something that I’ve really just recently like transformed into the best new version of itself that it’s really about creating the life you truly want to live through a higher consciousness mindset. So a lot of things that we spoke about in creating through that higher consciousness perspective. So all you need to, if you’re, if this truly resonates with you and this is something that you want to explore and you can just book a free consultation with me in which we can really discuss what your current situation is, how I can be of help to you and if this program is the right fit for you at this time. So that’s just something that I linked them to, um, solving them down to, you know, my video and everything. And then you simply book that with me and then we get [inaudible] have a chat and really see if this is the right fit for you. At this time. So sunny sharma.com personal mastery development, just personal quest, I’m sorry, personal must request.com. All right, so, uh, very helpful and I totally recommend Sonny’s videos. What I had mentioned to you when I had talked about the interview before is I would love if someday you got some, you went and got some transcripts of, of your stuff because a lot of it is beyond Neville and you in the moment you’re capturing some, some real nuggets, some real power. I still want to see a book by sunny Sharma. I’m willing to help co-write it. But in any case, uh, I think there are a lot of people would agree with that. Uh, if we go back into the treasure trove of the daily videos that you’ve done, there are some, there are some nuggets that are just as good as who am I and the rest. Uh, and I would love to see it and I think that a lot of people would, so don’t forget that idea. I know if that’s not your intention, maybe it’s mine, but a lot of people would love to read the words of Sonny just as much as to listen to them. Uh, you’ve taught what’s that in the comments, put them in the comments and it can be a 16 pager, it doesn’t matter. But I, I definitely [inaudible] uh, you have a lot to contribute. I’ve learned a lot about centering, about focus, about stillness, about being in the moment and I’ve learned that from you and I want to thank you cause it, it has helped me a lot when I’m struggling. Sometimes those teachings which are so profound and simple are exactly what I need in a lot of people out there. Uh, can get that by subscribing to Sonny’s channel, congratulation on 10,000 subscribers or I never would say I remember when you only had 10,000 subscribers. Right. So we’re gonna um, I promise we’ll definitely be talking again soon. I want to check in with you soon. Everybody check out Sonny’s channel, Sonny’s a beast and thank you and welcome to the reality revolution. Thank you Brian. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it so much.

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